Spar Mine - Lloyd's - Hendre

**martymarty** · Subject: Re: Spar Mine - Lloyd's - Hendre Fri 16 Jan 2009, 7:02 pm

Ian wrote:

Update on the Position with the Spar Mine;

At the UCET AGM (15th Jan 2009) the matter of the Spar Mine was raised and discussed at length. The following was determined;

1) The landowners agents had advised the landowner to seal the mine(s) as well as erect new fencing both around the mine entrances and along the side of a public footpath that goes close to it.

2) Our (now) vice-chairman did put forward an alternative proposal to keep the mine open (as outlined earlier in the thread).

3) The issue of the bats in the cave was not known about by the landowner until he was approached by Batmancaver (GCC & The Clwyd Bat Group?)

The landowner still intends to seal the entrance but, of course, now also needs to comply with legislation and ensure that the bats can freely use the entrance (ie. a bat grill/gate).

It was proposed (subject to the CCW approving same) that we create an entrance that the bats can continue to use as well as add a gate for everyone else to enter by and that we would do so at our cost (we will look into the possibility of a grant from the Cambrian Caving Council) in a trade off for maintaining human access with the landowner.

We have taken on board all of the positive comments on the forum and, subject to the CCW agreeing the plans, we would welcome anyone to help and assist in the creation of the new entrance and we also propose;

a) A sign will be erected with access details

b) If a padlock is fitted we will give a key to anyone who wants one (to keep) or if the padlock is a combination lock we will make the combination known (following the example of Cwmorthin)

The purpose of the exercise is to keep the mine open for all and we hope that everyone will support this project.

Very Happy

This is great news that the mine will hopfully be kept open following in the same steps of Cwmorthin all this forum none-sense could have been avoided if the likes of fees and empire building were not disscussed it is good that weve all put our heads together to solve the problem. As around 80% of us are not members of any clubs and just have the same interests. I would also recommend that any future plans or other ventures underground by caving clubs would take into account the other mine and cave exploring community. Please remember we deserve a say aswell

regards and good luck
Marty